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		<title>By: EvoPysch and &#8220;natural&#8221; attraction. at Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1647</link>
		<author>EvoPysch and &#8220;natural&#8221; attraction. at Hoyden About Town</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been stewing up an FAQ for FF101 for a while, and it hasn&#8217;t come together as well as I&#8217;d like. I want to take on EvPsych, basically, and look at some of the crap on offer that claims that somehow evolution has forced men to be attracted to (totally coincidentally highly physically vulnerable) young waifs in the pursuit of propagating their genes rather than strong healthy buttkicking women offering a genetic propensity to muscularity such as, say, Serena Williams. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;ve been stewing up an FAQ for FF101 for a while, and it hasn&#8217;t come together as well as I&#8217;d like. I want to take on EvPsych, basically, and look at some of the crap on offer that claims that somehow evolution has forced men to be attracted to (totally coincidentally highly physically vulnerable) young waifs in the pursuit of propagating their genes rather than strong healthy buttkicking women offering a genetic propensity to muscularity such as, say, Serena Williams. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Roundup &#171; Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1388</link>
		<author>Friday Roundup &#171; Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1388</guid>
		<description>[...] Fat-phobic sports news from Kindly Póg Mo Thóin by Zuzu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Fat-phobic sports news from Kindly Póg Mo Thóin by Zuzu [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisR</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1383</link>
		<author>ChrisR</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1383</guid>
		<description>"Is she too big? The Australian media certainly believed so. While winning the Australian Open earlier this year..."

For me, the Australian media lost credibility after I read, "While winning the Australian Open..."

I'd like to have legs as strong as Serena's arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is she too big? The Australian media certainly believed so. While winning the Australian Open earlier this year&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>For me, the Australian media lost credibility after I read, &#8220;While winning the Australian Open&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to have legs as strong as Serena&#8217;s arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Harding</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1234</link>
		<author>Kate Harding</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1234</guid>
		<description>Excellent point, Tigtog.

And Zuzu, you may have just inspired a post about breasts, hips, and fatphobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Tigtog.</p>
<p>And Zuzu, you may have just inspired a post about breasts, hips, and fatphobia.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1218</link>
		<author>tigtog</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1218</guid>
		<description>Why do the evopsych guys never argue that our evolutionary urges towards mating with the best DNA partner would push men towards wanting strong women like Serena who would contribute genes that would be more likely to result in strong offspring?

They've been acculturated to not find a powerfully muscular woman attractive, and they have to argue in circles around that while denying that socialised/acculturated perceptions affect their superior minds at all, nuh-uh.  Apparently it's OK to be helpless before genetic urges, but not OK to acknowledge that cultural attitudes shape your individual preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the evopsych guys never argue that our evolutionary urges towards mating with the best DNA partner would push men towards wanting strong women like Serena who would contribute genes that would be more likely to result in strong offspring?</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been acculturated to not find a powerfully muscular woman attractive, and they have to argue in circles around that while denying that socialised/acculturated perceptions affect their superior minds at all, nuh-uh.  Apparently it&#8217;s OK to be helpless before genetic urges, but not OK to acknowledge that cultural attitudes shape your individual preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Incertus (Brian)</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1199</link>
		<author>Incertus (Brian)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1199</guid>
		<description>Come to think of it, I'm a bit surprised that he didn't go after Barry Bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, I&#8217;m a bit surprised that he didn&#8217;t go after Barry Bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1197</link>
		<author>Stephanie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1197</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;And if that’s fat, then let me be fat like that. I’d love to have her body. It just exudes power.&lt;/i&gt;

No kidding!  She's gorgeous, to boot, and has, oh, basically a figure almost any woman would LOVE to have, but OH, she's out of shape (despite the fact that she wins more than her 'thin' sister) because she has a FIGURE.

I'm not even sure what any sort of height-weight chart says Shaq SHOULD weigh because he's so. freaking. big.  

And the reason Miguel Cabrera should lose weight?  Because if he stops hitting all those home runs, people are going to call him fat.  Sure.  That's great, there.  Did it ever occur to them that you need a certain amount of body mass in order to HIT home runs?  Most power hitters are big, and it ain't all muscle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And if that’s fat, then let me be fat like that. I’d love to have her body. It just exudes power.</i></p>
<p>No kidding!  She&#8217;s gorgeous, to boot, and has, oh, basically a figure almost any woman would LOVE to have, but OH, she&#8217;s out of shape (despite the fact that she wins more than her &#8216;thin&#8217; sister) because she has a FIGURE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even sure what any sort of height-weight chart says Shaq SHOULD weigh because he&#8217;s so. freaking. big.  </p>
<p>And the reason Miguel Cabrera should lose weight?  Because if he stops hitting all those home runs, people are going to call him fat.  Sure.  That&#8217;s great, there.  Did it ever occur to them that you need a certain amount of body mass in order to HIT home runs?  Most power hitters are big, and it ain&#8217;t all muscle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1194</link>
		<author>Mnemosyne</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1194</guid>
		<description>I think Serena ended up on that list because he was desperate to find &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; female athlete that he could scold for being fat.  Otherwise, it would have been all men.  And, surprise surprise, most of them were baseball players.  Did this guy miss Fernando Valenzuela's stardom?

Not to mention that someone who doesn't realize that a guy who's &lt;i&gt;seven feet tall&lt;/i&gt; is going to weigh more than his 5-foot-6 ass is just an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Serena ended up on that list because he was desperate to find <i>some</i> female athlete that he could scold for being fat.  Otherwise, it would have been all men.  And, surprise surprise, most of them were baseball players.  Did this guy miss Fernando Valenzuela&#8217;s stardom?</p>
<p>Not to mention that someone who doesn&#8217;t realize that a guy who&#8217;s <i>seven feet tall</i> is going to weigh more than his 5-foot-6 ass is just an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1193</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1193</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I love the way that they quoted her responding to this sort of bullshit. I wish they hadn’t followed that up with a “check out Serena’s ass hyuk hyuk!” line.&lt;/i&gt;

I might do a little editing to comment directly on that (and also at his commentary on Shaq's diet).  I mean, the woman appears in a bikini in photo spreads frequently.  You'd think if she were the cow he seems to think she is, you might notice from the bikini shots.

And if that's fat, then let me be fat like that.  I'd love to have her body.  It just exudes power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I love the way that they quoted her responding to this sort of bullshit. I wish they hadn’t followed that up with a “check out Serena’s ass hyuk hyuk!” line.</i></p>
<p>I might do a little editing to comment directly on that (and also at his commentary on Shaq&#8217;s diet).  I mean, the woman appears in a bikini in photo spreads frequently.  You&#8217;d think if she were the cow he seems to think she is, you might notice from the bikini shots.</p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s fat, then let me be fat like that.  I&#8217;d love to have her body.  It just exudes power.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1191</link>
		<author>sam</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2007/09/01/fat-phobic-sports-news/#comment-1191</guid>
		<description>wasn't there some brouhaha a few years ago as well, when BMI became the new "thing" about Picabo Street?  I remember her being analyzed as technically obese or some such, because she had a high BMI for her height - but then there were all of these explanations about how BMI is a terrible measurement for professional athletes (particularly women) who have significantly more muscle mass than the general population, precisely because the muscle gives them much more "weight" which throws off the calculations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wasn&#8217;t there some brouhaha a few years ago as well, when BMI became the new &#8220;thing&#8221; about Picabo Street?  I remember her being analyzed as technically obese or some such, because she had a high BMI for her height - but then there were all of these explanations about how BMI is a terrible measurement for professional athletes (particularly women) who have significantly more muscle mass than the general population, precisely because the muscle gives them much more &#8220;weight&#8221; which throws off the calculations.</p>
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