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		<title>By: raging red</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2386</link>
		<author>raging red</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mnemosyne's mention of the delicate sweetness of broccoli  made me think of parsnips.  In the past year or so I discovered the beauty of parsnips.  I had pureed parsnips in a restaurant and then started making them at home.  They have a slight sweetness and when cooked there's an aroma of spices -- almost like a cinnamon, cardamom, and/or nutmeg smell.  I love them pureed, like mashed potatoes, and roasted.  My favorite way to eat them is in pureed parsnip soup.  &lt;a href="http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&#38;recipe_id=833306" rel="nofollow"&gt;This recipe for carrot-parsnip soup with parsnip chips&lt;/a&gt; is killer (you can use vegetable broth instead of chicken).  Anyway, for a vegan with a sweet tooth, I think parsnips would hit the spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mnemosyne&#8217;s mention of the delicate sweetness of broccoli  made me think of parsnips.  In the past year or so I discovered the beauty of parsnips.  I had pureed parsnips in a restaurant and then started making them at home.  They have a slight sweetness and when cooked there&#8217;s an aroma of spices &#8212; almost like a cinnamon, cardamom, and/or nutmeg smell.  I love them pureed, like mashed potatoes, and roasted.  My favorite way to eat them is in pureed parsnip soup.  <a href="http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&amp;recipe_id=833306" rel="nofollow">This recipe for carrot-parsnip soup with parsnip chips</a> is killer (you can use vegetable broth instead of chicken).  Anyway, for a vegan with a sweet tooth, I think parsnips would hit the spot.</p>
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		<title>By: jebbypal</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2373</link>
		<author>jebbypal</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2373</guid>
		<description>While I've never had an issue with substance abuse personally (though lots of side experience with family), I was nodding through your post.  I have an allergy to corn that isn't anaphylatic, but beyond any GI problems I suffer, it majorly affects my mood and behavior.  When I finally eliminated almost all hidden corn from my diet (approximately 3-4 years ago), it was the first time in my life that I was depressed or experiencing major mood swings.  Now whenever I do get depressed, it takes me a little while to remember to look at anything new in my diet, but usually there is a culprit.

It's been hard and I've had to learn how to cook and bake from scratch, but it's been worth it.  There's a lot of studies that have recently been done of late that indicate that most of the processed sugars in foods (most corn-derived) do have addictive properties to them.  Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;ve never had an issue with substance abuse personally (though lots of side experience with family), I was nodding through your post.  I have an allergy to corn that isn&#8217;t anaphylatic, but beyond any GI problems I suffer, it majorly affects my mood and behavior.  When I finally eliminated almost all hidden corn from my diet (approximately 3-4 years ago), it was the first time in my life that I was depressed or experiencing major mood swings.  Now whenever I do get depressed, it takes me a little while to remember to look at anything new in my diet, but usually there is a culprit.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been hard and I&#8217;ve had to learn how to cook and bake from scratch, but it&#8217;s been worth it.  There&#8217;s a lot of studies that have recently been done of late that indicate that most of the processed sugars in foods (most corn-derived) do have addictive properties to them.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2350</link>
		<author>preying mantis</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2350</guid>
		<description>"My point is that I’m trying to assess why it’s considered such a big deal to give up sugar."

My guess would be that it's because processed sugar is in so much stuff to one degree or another that, if you go too far past switching out Kornsyrup Krunchies for bran flakes and unsweetened tea for Coca-Cola, food can wind up requiring a lot of time and effort that it didn't before.  It's kind of like the difference between being an ovo-lacto vegetarian and being vegan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My point is that I’m trying to assess why it’s considered such a big deal to give up sugar.&#8221;</p>
<p>My guess would be that it&#8217;s because processed sugar is in so much stuff to one degree or another that, if you go too far past switching out Kornsyrup Krunchies for bran flakes and unsweetened tea for Coca-Cola, food can wind up requiring a lot of time and effort that it didn&#8217;t before.  It&#8217;s kind of like the difference between being an ovo-lacto vegetarian and being vegan.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2349</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2349</guid>
		<description>Oh, you guys are making my teeth hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you guys are making my teeth hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2348</link>
		<author>Mnemosyne</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2348</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I put three or four packs of Equal in a venti mocha. I use the diner’s entire supply of Equal and Splenda if I have a third cup. I make iced coffee with Splenda and Coffeemate. I make hot chocolate with two packs of Carnation and five Equals in a regular-sized cup.&lt;/i&gt;

You sound like my friend's ex-roommate.  She would use an entire scoop of Kool-Aid to make one glass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I put three or four packs of Equal in a venti mocha. I use the diner’s entire supply of Equal and Splenda if I have a third cup. I make iced coffee with Splenda and Coffeemate. I make hot chocolate with two packs of Carnation and five Equals in a regular-sized cup.</i></p>
<p>You sound like my friend&#8217;s ex-roommate.  She would use an entire scoop of Kool-Aid to make one glass.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2347</link>
		<author>Thomas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2347</guid>
		<description>"I used to put sugar in my Cafe Mocha from Starbucks. (No, seriously.)"

I put three or four packs of Equal in a venti mocha.  I use the diner's entire supply of Equal and Splenda if I have a third cup.  I make iced coffee with Splenda and Coffeemate.  I make hot chocolate with two packs of Carnation and five Equals in a regular-sized cup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I used to put sugar in my Cafe Mocha from Starbucks. (No, seriously.)&#8221;</p>
<p>I put three or four packs of Equal in a venti mocha.  I use the diner&#8217;s entire supply of Equal and Splenda if I have a third cup.  I make iced coffee with Splenda and Coffeemate.  I make hot chocolate with two packs of Carnation and five Equals in a regular-sized cup.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2345</link>
		<author>Mnemosyne</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2345</guid>
		<description>Oh, and as Magnus said, people who have given up refined sugars end up amazed at the delicate sweetness of broccoli and other "bitter" vegetables once their taste buds adjust.

I don't think I could ever give up sugar entirely.  I lasted about three weeks with an increasingly bad headache and nasty outlook on life, which to me means that giving up sugar was going too far for me personally and my specific physiology.  But I definitely am not the sugar fiend I used to be -- I used to put sugar in my Cafe Mocha from Starbucks.  (No, seriously.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as Magnus said, people who have given up refined sugars end up amazed at the delicate sweetness of broccoli and other &#8220;bitter&#8221; vegetables once their taste buds adjust.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I could ever give up sugar entirely.  I lasted about three weeks with an increasingly bad headache and nasty outlook on life, which to me means that giving up sugar was going too far for me personally and my specific physiology.  But I definitely am not the sugar fiend I used to be &#8212; I used to put sugar in my Cafe Mocha from Starbucks.  (No, seriously.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2343</link>
		<author>Mnemosyne</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2343</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;My point is that I’m trying to assess why it’s considered such a big deal to give up sugar. It’s not like there isn’t sugar in foods like fruit. So why is it considered a big honkin’ deal to eliminate processed sugar?&lt;/i&gt;

My thought?  It's because America is the Land of the Food Cranks, and has been since the days of Kellogg and Graham (if not before).  The "OMG how can you give up sugar!?!" people are the ones getting on your nerves now, but just wait until you encounter the "Sugar is a DEADLY POISON" squad.  No one can just let people eat the way they want.  Everything has to be a Social Statement, and either you're with them or you're against them.  Those of us who just want to eat better without making it the source of conversation end up huddling in the middle.

It's what makes it annoying to be a meat-eater in this society.  On the one side, you have the Vegan Evangelists, who are irritating all on their own.  Then, on the other side, you have the Manly Man Meat-Eaters, who seem to think that their dick is going to fall off if a vegetable accidentally crosses their lips.

It's enough to make you want to become a Breathatarian.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My point is that I’m trying to assess why it’s considered such a big deal to give up sugar. It’s not like there isn’t sugar in foods like fruit. So why is it considered a big honkin’ deal to eliminate processed sugar?</i></p>
<p>My thought?  It&#8217;s because America is the Land of the Food Cranks, and has been since the days of Kellogg and Graham (if not before).  The &#8220;OMG how can you give up sugar!?!&#8221; people are the ones getting on your nerves now, but just wait until you encounter the &#8220;Sugar is a DEADLY POISON&#8221; squad.  No one can just let people eat the way they want.  Everything has to be a Social Statement, and either you&#8217;re with them or you&#8217;re against them.  Those of us who just want to eat better without making it the source of conversation end up huddling in the middle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what makes it annoying to be a meat-eater in this society.  On the one side, you have the Vegan Evangelists, who are irritating all on their own.  Then, on the other side, you have the Manly Man Meat-Eaters, who seem to think that their dick is going to fall off if a vegetable accidentally crosses their lips.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s enough to make you want to become a Breathatarian.  <img src='http://kindlypogmothoin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2341</link>
		<author>Magnus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2341</guid>
		<description>I dropped sugar (and other sweeteners) from my regular diet about eight months ago, and so far it has only been positive. Once you're waned from the sweetness there's a whole new range of previously too bitter tastes that has now become enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dropped sugar (and other sweeteners) from my regular diet about eight months ago, and so far it has only been positive. Once you&#8217;re waned from the sweetness there&#8217;s a whole new range of previously too bitter tastes that has now become enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzu</title>
		<link>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2340</link>
		<author>Zuzu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kindlypogmothoin.com/2008/01/06/rethinking-deprivation/#comment-2340</guid>
		<description>Oh, if I have trouble, I'll just eat sugar again.

My point is that I'm trying to assess why it's considered such a big deal to give up sugar.  It's not like there isn't sugar in foods like fruit.  So why is it considered a big honkin' deal to eliminate processed sugar?

And I think the answer is that we, as a society, have invested a lot of importance in sugar and sugary treats.  It's not like your body needs them.  But we're all culturally conditioned to celebrate with cake, to think of cookies as a big treat, and more importantly, to think of sugary food as something that's "bad" but at the same time, highly desirable.  So you get guilt if you eat them, but if you don't, then people worry that you're a control freak or pinched or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, if I have trouble, I&#8217;ll just eat sugar again.</p>
<p>My point is that I&#8217;m trying to assess why it&#8217;s considered such a big deal to give up sugar.  It&#8217;s not like there isn&#8217;t sugar in foods like fruit.  So why is it considered a big honkin&#8217; deal to eliminate processed sugar?</p>
<p>And I think the answer is that we, as a society, have invested a lot of importance in sugar and sugary treats.  It&#8217;s not like your body needs them.  But we&#8217;re all culturally conditioned to celebrate with cake, to think of cookies as a big treat, and more importantly, to think of sugary food as something that&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221; but at the same time, highly desirable.  So you get guilt if you eat them, but if you don&#8217;t, then people worry that you&#8217;re a control freak or pinched or something.</p>
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